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The wood finish is glossy and perfect. The Springfield Trapdoor held the new, more powerful .45-70 military cartridge. The right side of the octagonal chamber is marked "CAL. Because I am an Amateur Historian, I carry for Self-Defense, one of three identical five and a half inch barreled, Remington 1858's, in a shoulder holster. But when you close the lever to the firing position, that round is not brought up into battery. 10) Uberti name and address stamping from 1975. H|TMs0+Vcv~$C4=[Yb$9?dowy3YY^TO~&nV;r6gReI LiFZj2C&-zR` To become a member $3 for one day $7 one month or $15 one year, One-of-a-Kinds ~ Antique and Collectibles, Metal Shank Buttons with Victorian Design. There are no chips or cracks. It was the earliest production of the .45 Colt model that I could find and wanted it in .45C to match my 1873 Colt single six. I have a .44 cal B/P pistol with an logo of s inside a hexagon inside a circle. 0000001338 00000 n River Junction Trade Co, 312 Main Street, P.O. I find strange that an Uberti gun has no date code. 22 HORNET. I will always hold a special place in my heart for my great great grandfathers Newhaven Arms 1860 Henry, but my Henry Repeating Arms Co rifle will always hold second to that one hands down no contest. Mechanics:The action functions correctly. Partly because of that problem and partly because of the high price, $2300, we gave the rifle a Grade: C rating. It has a brass frame, trigger guard and back strap, 1851 style -no top strap. Markings:The left side of the barrel is marked NAVY ARMS CO. RIDGEFIELD N.J. MADE IN ITALY and there are Italian proof marks at the chamber including the date code AA. The only lettering on the gun is on the left side of the barrel and reads BLACK POWDER ONLY-MADE IN ITALY-CALIBER 36. 1860." The bluing was authentic looking. The collective knowledge of the members of this Forum, must total several hundred years. 0000008724 00000 n Like the other rifle, the back edge of the Ubertis chamber had sharp corners, though no burrs, and a bit of time with a scraper there should answer most loading questions. <<9CAB7C9ADE9DBB4DB23FAD02FA255802>]>> 22 0 obj << /Linearized 1 /O 25 /H [ 1485 306 ] /L 118117 /E 82195 /N 2 /T 117559 >> endobj xref 22 45 0000000016 00000 n For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thank you. We also tried, but did not record, Remington factory ammo and some handloads. It is in the 2,000 serial range and has GU mark. Model:Replica Remington Rolling Block Pistol, Year of Manufacture:1975, Italian date code AA, Action Type:Single-Shot Rolling-Block style Pistol with Extractor. I have to disagree with Zonie just a bit. 0000003864 00000 n This one seems to be an older mfg., very high quality lock action. 0000052647 00000 n ", http://www.oldwestguns.ca/index.php?cts&object=175, http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k228/4fingermick/, http://www.powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf, Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to The cartouche is 3 "R"s each inside the other. A copy of a telex communication dated September 9, 1986 from Colt Firearms to Aldo Uberti & Co. ordering 65 firearms (five Phanton .44 Mag and 60 SA firearms in .22 and .44 Mag in 4 , 5 and 7 inch barrel lengths). Uberti makes five versions of this rifle. There is no Roman numerals on this 1851. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. Derek Landers, I have one single shot black powder handgun, percussion, brass frame steel barrel. (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)/*stream 0000005085 00000 n The Trapper 342910 in 45 Colt has an 18.5-inch barrel, a brass frame and buttplate, and a case-hardened lever. Frascarelli. It was not rust bluing, but looked close enough to it to satisfy us. I bought a 36 Cal. Our Team Said: We thought the Uberti 1860 Henry was as good a rifle as any weve tested, modern or otherwise. xref Both these guns are very well made, not junk, both have serial numbers and also say Pat. The stamp is not a part in the serial numbers, and it is normally found on Frame in [ ] brackets. There are already a number of these fakes out there, just waiting for the unwary and uninformed, and there are those who would welcome the opportunity to provide even more. Wedge Issue: Any pointers for getting the wedge out of a Pietta 1851 Navy for the first time. Did that Dawg,nothing.There is a serial number on the receiver right in front of the lever and below the carrier and a proof mark above the carrier.There are two proof marks on the barrel and a roman numeral just in front of the receiver.Nothing on the tangs at all.It had a lever safety on it a onetime and someone took . As with all previously owned firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards. It just seems that a little more care in their placement could result in more acceptability and perhaps more sales to the purists. Pedersoli have changed their logo a couple of times since the late 1950s but for the last forty or so years it has remained the same. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. r2 e< 1{Vk)} 0000007839 00000 n T^;y} 4E Pit Bull Tex 1860. The top tang of the action held the designation MOD. You could always ask Val Forgett at Navy Arms,Here is his facebook page where you can contact him, https://www.facebook.com/Navy-Arms-Firearms-326497049152/?fref=ts. Very nice and very early production. Powered by Invision Community. 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Gunmart.net is the largest shooting resource and review based website, using the resources of Britain's biggest and most comprehensive magazines - Gun Mart, Shooting Sports and What Gun. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. Wayne, you do not say whether or not these pistols are held on a firearms certificate. by F.A.R.A; It appears to be a notch or two higher quality in fit & finish to the many such repros of this rifle I've seen over the yearsanyone have knowledge of the maker? 0000062843 00000 n Pending. Recent Euroarms pistols have been observed with a new mark which looks like a letter N surrounded by four triangles. any one know who manuf. Not all numbers in this range were used. The Henry rifle worked well enough but had a nasty job of overbuffing, we thought, that gave the brass action a mirror polish at the expense of destroying the edges of the octagonal flats of the barrel. 2) It is not unusual to find one or more of the Proof marks lightly stamped. According to a web site this is the Italian date code for 1977. Aldo Uberti S.r.l. maybe I can get a little more info. 0000006802 00000 n 0000050678 00000 n H\@OQEcb{+ nb~{:0|wvrqrkx?:S],\hi~,]#M=m.0Mn6sjZ]e/&oKZ!b>^SM U\bw~tWcV.Y,qd^"+"!b^!{w{=2i3{dad:=Npz:=~E~e~MYxGxGxGxGxGx=SOA>} x4hjF%1I'WVH">^I*Yt} FSYD"}di)IK n!Hhf$=o:k$y}$*&L(\G'zyKdlG?Q\7>>SSV6K#OqDSIpzNh~~ x #=l%l&U ps~31H^$qB^7'0]?Ew#E=9+|uL>k/,xS-7wiN=KqOF` m2; ul_w`N` Lv endstream endobj 36 0 obj 741 endobj 37 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 36 0 R >> stream 0000001791 00000 n Internet info = nothing so far, any help out there?? Good luck on your bid! Same serial # is under grips on frame as on bottom of barrel. 6) Pietta's logo and name stamp. The second proof mark is a similar star and circle, slightly larger, above the letters PN. You have doubtless seen the obligatory BLACK POWDER ONLY marking (stamped on the barrel of all Italian made black powder guns) and the proof house stamps, but are you aware of their significance? 0000007017 00000 n Code numbers, catalog numbers, model names, calibers and barrel lengths were detailed. The main difference between Taylor's and Cimirron will be the Importer's Marks. There, you should find a roman numeral or two character alphabetical stamp. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. there is no calibre or name on it. There were no failures to feed, fire, or eject. there are no marks anywhere except serial #xxx on bottom of barrel below base pin. During the 1960's, 1970's, and even into the 1980's there was a bonanza market for these replica revolvers. was founded in 1959 and has always used a capital U sur-rounded by an octagonal device, which is actually the muzzle of an 1851 Navy . There is no maker marks on this rifle at all.The proof marks say it is made in 1967.The links in it look like they could handle 44-40.I took it down all the way but pull the barrel off and no maker marks.I have had 4 Uberti 22s over the years and they all had Uberti on them somewhere.This is the smoothest of all of the ones I have had,but still don't know who made it.I had a lever safety or at least had a place for one.This is the only one that the forearm barrel band is brass and the sight band is brass. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. Eho is the manufacturer ? On butt frame stamped 4809 (serial number?) Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments The order was signed J. 0000012277 00000 n All of these reproductions will also be marked ITALY or MADE IN ITALY, along with a serial number, calibre and, in the case of Uberti and Pedersoli, often a catalogue number. It is not unusual to find some of these American marked guns on sale here in the UK. There will be two proof markings and a date mark in at least one location on every firearm. We again state its a good idea to have the rifle entirely empty when you load the rifle to avoid the possibility of a major blunder that could cost you a hand, or worse. We were extremely gratified to see a company making such a high-grade version of the old Henry, never mind where in the world its made. I have 2 revolvers one 36 the other 31 cal. . %PDF-1.4 % H\j0~ What others? 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Copyright 2019 sassnet.com To our joy, the rifle had a decent trigger pull, 6.2 pounds and free of creep. ix)]'Aa-;O;KGg 6+Rg^vF$^og>XxZaNz:E 0000004861 00000 n Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. 0000078152 00000 n fW5Zi|Fki"Mf4i{~9wY C [[8jD=z"ef ~ZckGWE(}vE|4 See Attachment 5. 0000010481 00000 n Two more Rifle models come in the same chamberings (342370 in 44-40 and 342360 in 45 Colt) and have the same barrel lengths as the brass ones, but they display case-hardened frames and levers and blued buttplates and list for $30 more. on the underside of the barrel there is 2 5 on the bore and 5 2 on the breech. Yes, that can be confusing, but we did like the 1860 Henry by the Italian maker better than we did the namesake brands gun. there are other marking but they are not readable. 0000003080 00000 n The right side of the receiver is marked with the serial number "08270" and features Italian proofs including the date code "AF". "I'll help you down the trail and proud to!" There have been few days since my arrival here in late 1977, that I have not carried a gun, either on my hip, or beneath my left armpit. 0000011515 00000 n Type of Finish:Blue, Case Color and Brass. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. 0000008989 00000 n Unlike the other rifle, this one came with a comprehensive yet brief manual that told how to operate it all. Could it be one of those? 0000039418 00000 n Black Powder Date Codes. Stamping on the frame is CMC or CMG also not clear. Most members even possess Colt Percussion Clones, by Uberti & Pietta.. HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 This is not one of the standard Pedersoli or Pietta proof marks, nor is it a Uberti proof mark. The "1858 Remington" is a modern collector's term for the Remington New Model Army. In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal parts for the revolvers and Uberti assembled them. Where can I find them.Got a 22 cal I would like to find out about.1866,from Navy Arms no name or modle. 0000067226 00000 n 0000002293 00000 n 0000012438 00000 n Uberti's extensive line of traditional guns has established a long history of reliability. If you don't Facebook PM me the details of the rifle and I'll make sure he gets it. 0000005942 00000 n I have one 4 revolving barrel handgun, percussion, double action, looks like 36 caliber. 0000037734 00000 n The letter is signed by Maria Laura Uberti of Uberti USA, Inc. and states that these revolvers were made for Colt Firearms as prototypes by my father Aldo Uberti. Unfired. The original rolling-block pistol was based on the split-breech carbine invented by Joseph Geiger. If you can send some pics of the guns and close ups of the marks to the magazine they should forward them to me and I may be able to help. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. The overbuffing also left a depression, sometimes called a hog wallow, where the barrel met the 5-inch sleeve at the muzzle. Thanks for the info Gaz. Only flaw I noticed is the screw securing the wedge is a bit off center to the left. The lever springs out of a Uberti 73 are the same as the ones one of this 22.I am thinking it is a Uberti but me thinking is not always a good thing. xb``e``yhXa`+(y-[6zX8-dRRh i9W@Zu"vl=d*b5,JqXx ,8Pl}C;a>aN )10Zx'@ R3 Next is the mark which has "PN" - the Gardone & Brescia 1st Black Powder Proof mark used since 1959. Be advised there are some hot 45 LC loads, such as from Buffalo Bore, that probably ought not to be used in this rifle, certainly not as a steady diet. I have a Uberti made .44 Mag. Bore Condition:The bore is mostly bright with sharp rifling. The design was sold to the US Government, but it was never adopted for use by the military despite being a mechanically sound firearm. I have a 1858 remington new army revolver I purchased at a garage sale. 0000105711 00000 n I have a 62 cal, shield inlay, short stock, palm tree markings, liverpool on the side plate. any information would be of help. Metal to metal fit very precise, ditto for wood grips to back strap. Prior to 1954 the year of proof was stamped on the guns in Arabic numerals, but this new coding system was introduced around the time of the first reproductions. 0000003020 00000 n Wed buy this one instantly if we wanted a brass gun for fun. There will be a third mark alongside these two and this indicates the year that the weapon went through the proof house. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. shooting, hunting, fishing, blacksmithing, CAS, Cars, Traveling 0000052548 00000 n The website has it right at 13. These codes go back to 1954, starting with Roman numeral, "X" (ten) and increasing by one each year so, 1955 = XI, 1956 = XII. As for value comes with box and back powder flask. Loading the rifle was easy, by which we mean the follower easily raised the front lock to let the gate swing open without any of the fiddling the Henrys version needed. 11) The mark on the left is possibly an Armi San Marco logo on a 1994 pistol. 0000007663 00000 n They also did a Colt 1855 revolving rifle. Delivery of item will be in 3 - 6 business days to Continental USA. Barrel Length:9.5, Half-Round, Half-Octagonal. It was made in 1980 and has all of the standard proof marks but I don't know who manufactured the rifle. The major manufacturers could not meet the demand and American distributors wanted more of and different models of what were being produced. Deep blued 6 side 7.5" barrel, case hardened loading rod and hammer. Top of the barrel says "wesson" right side, looking down range says .50 cal black powder only. We believe the original Henry rifles (from the 19th century) had blued parts, but there were some finish variations in the 1866 and 1873 rifles that followed it, so we believe its possible some of the original Henrys had case-hardened parts. 0000013676 00000 n They were produced by Gregorelli and Uberti. Groups with the PMC averaged 2.3 inches at 50 yards off the bench. To my amazement, I found another Uberti/Colt .22 single action at Collector Firearms' web site . The barrel and cylinder are the usual Uberti black rather than the blue of the originals and the finish is to a high standard, indicating good polishing before the finish was applied.

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