altec a7 vs klipschorn

The K-horns play so deep, down to 20 cycles, that you don't need a sub. I tested them using some Altec CDs and also K-55 and Selenium D-250X. Well you'll see lots of guys around here modding their Klipsch speakers with various Altec compression drivers, horns and woofers but I've NEVER seen Altec guys modding their speakers with Klipsch parts. I have become increasing aware of some really nice looking vintage Altec Lansing speakers that are horn loaded. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response was only as good as the khorns. The Altec Lansing A2 'Voice of the Theatre' loudspeaker combines two 210 low-frequency cabinets with four 515E drivers, and one 1005B horn with two 288-16K high-frequency compression drivers - a theater classic! Dr Morbius: It looks like, as of June 2, you still haven't bought anything. I noticed you used JBL drivers in your Belles. It's fine when when within the scope of purchase, but when brought up all the time, and recommended for consideration when thousands over budget, multiple friends have indicated in passing that excessive Klipsch shilling is almost as bad as the Bose bashing. "Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be?". Oops, looks like you forgot something. I have put a lot of Labor That would be like saying that you disagree that we are on planet earth. Xovers: The K-horn did this very well considering they had 3 drivers to contend with. very different. Much better bass than the A7 cabinet. No for the reason above. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. Just something different often sounds better at first. Had he not made his comment about buying a new pair of Khorns, I would have not said anything. to my ears the tractrix mid horns have a more open sound. a new pair of Khorns will sound fabulous. They claim 800hz crossover and are fully functional with attenuation knobs on them. They have been in storage for the last 20 years, this pair What they share is their horn design and their efficiency. Best Offer: Did he say why (in detail)? 811 horns have a low frequency cut-off of 800Hz and won't go much below that. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. i guess i need to take them out , since they are so well thought of. Upload or insert images from URL. Watch this gear and we'll notify you if it becomes available again. June 12, 2007 in 2-Channel Home Audio. This is a win-win situation. Quote Chris A Heritage Members 9.7k Location: Arlington, Texas, USA You need the Altec 511b horn instead. There will be a reasonably integrated inpulse response compared to the Auditorium 23 and the Klipschorn where the tweeter leads the mid by so much. WebSomething that needs to be mentioned is that the Altec A5, A6 and A7 use the same main cabinets, the 828. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Set of 2 Two Vintage Altec Lansing A7 Speakers Wood Cabinets at the best online prices at eBay! The Beyma CP-25 is reputed to be a hands-down improvement over the stock EV T-35 tweeter. Some of you talk about the 19s as tho they were the A7 voice of the theaters. Clear editor. They can take power better than an original Altec 19 network. http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=53469, you will love the 511/ 902 driver combo, with maybe an ev 350, or beyma tweeter. The Jubs are Fabulous & perform as most other owners have described far more eloquent then I can. By On 1/20/2005 8:40:10 AM Al Klappenberger wrote: Guys, The only comparison plots I did was of the K55 on an Altec 511b horn versus on a The A7-500-8 features improved high-frequency They have the most advanced crossovers which are really fine tuned for the drivers. Clear editor. The bottom end is there but not so predominant until the power is applied and at that point things are I wish I had an option to get some new khorns. What do you recommend? What crossover frequency were you planning on using? Your link has been automatically embedded. true obstructions (like the side of a bookcase, or other furniture 4 All of which I've already said in this thread. Quote. Your previous content has been restored. Looks like maybe 1940's vintage 2A3 tubes, too. Some call them plug uglies, but I could care less when I am listening, for me its all about the reproduction of music. If someone is contemplating new Khorns then I think they might want to know about the Jubilee's. They all sound good and they're all different. Owned and used a pair of 1974 Cornwalls for a decade. They're also smaller (at least, not as tall as) the If I can help any one with specific questions, PM or email me. Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be? 290 driver: 116 dB SPL. Affiliate programs and Fits standard Altec Drivers 1.4 3-bolt Dimensions 37 1/2" W x 19" H x 31" D Weight 30.5 lbs each unpacked. Paste as plain text instead, Altec horns most certainly shout, just like any other, perhaps even more so. Edit: Just found 4 on e-Bay, if the price stays low enough might pull the plug on three. Dorsey knows cinema sound inside and out, and in this article he shares his personal thoughts about these highly valued horn designs, and provides valuable tips on how to restore them. As any one who has spent very much time & experimentation in this hobby soon learns the significance of room & our personal hearing choice & cost is a major consideration. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. They are HUGE and so is their sound. could you say more about your experience with jubs? Yes, the 511 takes up the entire top front of the LaScala. Altec specs are also not necessarily useful. I know Al K. is using them on his Belles for sure. They also sound terrific at extremely low SPLs (I have never heard "fade-outs" reproduced better than on Altec drivers) as well as at concert sound levels. This article explains what we need to know about these speakers that are still highly sought-after with many still in use in cinemas. The Aristocrat is a contemporary of the Klipsch "Rebel/Shorthorn". You're in denial. 5) The Altec A-7s sound much like the much bigger Altecs used with the magnetic stereo widescreen movies of the late '50s and the '60s, except that the bigger Take heart, there will soon be an answer to the WAF and the horn upgrade! My concern is the motorboad for my La Sclala's, I think I will need a new mount for my K77 outside the HF section. feet or more from any corner in which there are Khorns. As far as the JBL/Beyma tweeters go, I am less certain about that. The crossovers are ALK designed.The speakers are currently equipped with K-401 horns and K-55 drivers.I am thinking about switching to Altec 811B horns and 808 8A drivers.Can I do this without modifing the crossovers? "Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be?" ..not around here they ain't! [] trouble is , they were both working, and then at a later time the horn was not working on one of them. 811 is 800Hz, 511 is 500Hz, 311 is 300Hz. "The weak point is that K501 and K401 horn itself!". Pasted as rich text. I've been building a small collection of Altec, JBL, Klipsch, and Dukane speaker drivers and complete speakers. wouldn't suggest that any BRAND of I said that because any time anyone mentions obtaining Klipsch on other forums, you ALWAYS mention Jubilees if you post in the thread. Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala - Vinnie - High Efficiency Speaker Asylum Altec Model 19 vs Klipsch La Scala Posted by Vinnie (A) on November 12, 2009 at 17:50:19 Wondering if anyone has ever had the oppurtunity to hear these two classic speakers side by side? Display as a link instead, Paste as plain text instead, I have them in my Belles and cross them at 700. Thank you, man! Enjoy my friends, now back to our Altec mdl. i'd suggest taking a look at Dave's fastlane audio website. Can only be mitigated, as in your room or my friend with the Khorns in the large room that is, for some reason, magically optimized for these speakers. I am interested in mating my K55M to an Altec 511 but have been having trouble finding them. For two rather I just got hold (next week) of some ALK B X-overs. Your previous content has been restored. he builds a couple of different size tractrix horns. It will! actually better than many expensive gears I heard. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. I know of several people who have made than change. Posted January 20, 2005. The only comparison plots I did was of the K55 on an Altec 511b horn versus on a K501 (Belle) horn. You cannot paste images directly. Sounds like you have found them underwhelming. Q-man and Rick are both excellent resources on this subject. Spec sheets are not as helpful as they sometimes seem. I have owned all the Heritage series except the Bella's & the Chorus, In my listening room (without good corners & several other undesirable architectural traits, the Jubs have given me the best performance. Just a side comment. though there are other issues to resolve, a new pair of Jubilee's might actually cost you less than a new pair of Khorns (and perhaps sound better) Might at least be worth investigating. By clicking Subscribe, I agree to receive exclusive offers & promotions, news & reviews, and personalized tips for buying and selling on Reverb. 4) Paul Klipsch ran curves of the Altec A7 v.s. both the La Scala and the Klipschorn in the '60s. They are reproduced somewhere on this forum. Pasted as rich text. The difference between A5 and A7 is the HF horn: the former uses one of the multi cells, the latter the sectoral type horn. Those wooden horns look very cool. It will work ok at 400 Hz. The driver on my 511B horn is the Altec 808-8a CD. Funny that this would come back up? The thoughts of previous posts are right on. I still to date have both speakers and like them for thier strengt Altec spec sheets show 30hz- 20khz freq response, Khorns show 33hz- 17khz. Powered with Mc240 or audio refinement SS amp. Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. Since I am almost 70 now, I thought I better do it now,, tomorrow is always an unknown [8-)] especially at my age. bluesboy Powered by Invision Community, Now that is the toppest of notches you are ever gonna get [Y]. Some of you talk about the 19s as tho they were the A7 voice of the theaters. My experiences have found them a little too bright and crisp. All except for the part about dealing with the shortcomings of horn shout, which is a problem that cannot be solved. Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. When you post a question like yours on the Klipsch Forum, you will find many respondents that prefer Klipsch speakers. Shoot, even as good as they sound now, I am still anxious to try other amps & other fine tuning experiments, just my nature. Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by murphythecat, Oct 17, 2016. how hard is it to fix or replace the horn on a 19? I'm thinking of building a set of two way CW-like speaker using 811-b horn and 816-8 altec woofer (we can call it 811-Cornscala). In fact, by the end of the year, I wll have horn loaded subwoofers to 22 hz. Of couse, I am wasting my breath on a Klispch forum typing thishaha. All of the different speakers & various amps have been a wonderful learning experience along the way, I was financially fortunate enough to take my hobby & Klipsch journey to Mr. Pauls final creation,. Coytee, will you EVER stop pushing Jubilees? I do NOT recommend that combination. By 1420514048 Altec A7 What to do Hello all, a Friend of mine has had Altec Lansing A7's sitting in his basement for several years, just couldn't put them in his current room setting. two way - Jubilee. Studio monitor class. It is not the only hammer in the toolbox. This matches the High Fidelity review of the Khorns from December 1963, which states that the Khorns bass "extended smoothly to well below 30 cycles [cycles per second being Hz in '60s talk], with doubling occuring at about 20 to 23 cycles, depending on how hard the system was driven." Not my intent at all. and have owned Cornwall, Choruses, and Fortes. ). You didn't specify in your posting what particular Klipsch speakers you are thinking of, and most respondents have referred to various heritage models, chiefly the Klipschorn. YMMV. I would like to get pair of commercial K-horns. I'm also thinking about replacing the T-35 tweeters with Beyma CP-25s. [] Now that is the toppest of notches you are ever gonna get [Y] IMO, PWK's most significant contribution, really a triumph in audio, was the K-horn. In at least one pitting of the Altec A7 against the Khorn, the Khorn had considerably better very high frequency response, even though both did not extend much beyond 15K Hz. It's reality. dkalsi Everyone claims that it can, but can never say just exactly how. Sectoral horns only available for the A7's. This article was originally published in audioXpress, September 2020. Clear editor. Interesting. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. The owner had used them with 311-90 horns and some 288's. I would stick with full fledged horns. Posted February 9, 2005. Your previous content has been restored. The JBL driver has a continuous roll off. heard them, though. He has them in a very large room and they sound very nice as it is, but there is definitely room for improvement. each and is known to produce a sound pressure level of 105 dB with just 1 watt. Are they really that different??? 1) Good horns tend to sound more like other good horns than non-horn speakers. Both of these are good brands, IMO. As always, it's It would have to be mounted externally. Was that a tough job fittin' them in the Khorn??? the Amazon Associates Program via amazon.com. ok .. point taken .. whaddabout the EV 350t biradial ..?? on the Khorn, there is plenty of room on to the side of the tractrix horn for just about any tweeter you'd want to use. There was a whole range of Voice of the Theatre loudspeakers -- the A5 and A7 are probably the most common. Display as a link instead, Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. It should outperform IME the Klipsch version (s) to a degree in that its rear-loaded horn is more defined rather than a simple slot at the rear of the cabinet. Hey! The Horns alone have been selling up around $1300 a pair on E-Bay, without the $500 Custom Paint Job these have. It won't interfere with the woofer at all. " Here's the 1953 plans. I have a few other sets of speakers thru out the house (Cornwalls, Pioneer, Sansui, Advents) & enjoy them all for what they are. I say LaScala, or Klipschorn because you say 400 horn. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Truth be told I've never listened to a pair of Khorns but I do have the Cornscalas and am blown away by their openness and clarity so, along with my HH Scott amp and Empire turntable connected to the new Khorns.well let's say I'll be a very happy man - and the wife too as she loves the sound of the Cornscallas as well as how the Khorns are set into the corners of the room. wouldn't suggest that any BRAND of speaker is necessarily better, but would say that the speakers all are different. Yeh. Either way, "shout" is not a term that I would personally describe the sound of Altec horns, other than making a reference to basic sonic characteristics that are inherent in any horn loaded speaker system. In my personal opinion the K-horn is , as I ca. The box defines the woofer horn, so the only part left Upload or insert images from URL. UPDATE: The forums, gallery and advanced search upgrades have been purchased. Materion Truextent makes replacement diaphragms, http://alteclansingunofficial.nlenet.net/publications/techletters/AN-11_EnclosurePlans.pdf. Naturally, keep all Having heard both in a number of different rooms and setups,The Klipschorn is more room dependent and Amplifier dependent than the Altec 19s. When the room is Big and Khorns are in Proper Corners and you have good tube amplification the Klipschorns will smoke the Altec 19s. You can build better new for under $700 a pair plus rational-size DIY cabs. :yes: http://community.klipsch.com/forums/p/91402/1318610.aspx, (You must log in or sign up to reply here.

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