william tyrrell sister in foster care

I could still hear him. Ive read the foster mother and/or Nanna had gone inside to make a cup of tea. The use of the word just suggests minimising language as its meaning could be interpreted as only or thats all. The foster mother, 56, and foster father, 54, were charged in November 2021 in relation to the alleged assault of a child at a home on Sydney's north shore. I heard from him once when he got out, I felt so bad because he had nothing.'. It's understood the alleged unspecified object is part of the focus of forensic search underway for traces of William, about 700m from his foster grandmother's home. But there may be elements of truth:- a car drives by = the foster father coming back to Nannas home (1) after receiving the frantic phone call from the foster mother that William had disappeared or (2) causing William's accident- the car turns around in the neighbours driveway = the foster father turns around in Nannas driveway- the driver exchanges weird glances with the foster mother = the foster mother locks eyes with the foster father: do you see what I see? -> the unthinkable has happened- the driver makes a u-turn = foster father takes William away The foster mother later said she believed the two initial cars were there to abduct both William and his sister. The foster mother purchased a camera and began compiling annual 'photo books of what we do as a family every year'. The language points to it clearly. Why would theyHave hidden itIf it was an accidentAnd the father accidentally ran him over?Keep thinking. Heres a link to another interview with Williams foster parents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmVi7aaUv1YSome interesting statements from this interview:INTERVIEWER: Lets start by telling us some of the details of the moment that William went missing.FOSTER MOTHER: The moment I knew he was missing was when I walked around the side of the house and I expected to see him on the grass ready to jump at me like a, the [roaring and the] Daddy Tiger game he was playing and, ummm, I walked out and I just looked, I just looked and I just.. stunned, I just.. why, why couldnt I see him, ummm, and then I just just thought, I thought is he hiding from me? Just there is non-specific in regards to location and just hanging out is again non descriptive. And, thank you for the continued support. Also why does she say We know nothing about it instead of We know nothing -> what is it (to me it seems to imply that they know something)?Autumn, Below is a transcript of part of the 60 minutes interview with the foster parents (see here as from 6:44):Foster mother: We wake up, ehm, we hear giggling and laughter and me telling everybody to be quiet and not wake up Nanna cause Nanna was still asleep.Voice over: On that morning William dresses in his favorite Spiderman outfit. Possibly the mother was thinking in terms of her relationship to the children - William was her foster child, and his sister was her other foster child. From a reportage by Nine News Australia about day two of the inquest into Williams disappearance (apparently the foster mum told one of the neighbors that William had hit his head): () today it was the foster mothers turn to relive the search for the three-year-old. It was "odd" to see cars parked on the quiet street, which had long driveways that were typically used by visitors, she said. and there was no answer, there was no answer.Think about the significance of the one statement.She has previously told us multiple times in various statements William was round the corner. The confusion Karlie exhibited may have been due to a head injury. A quote from the interview:Father: As I said before were praying for a miracle for him to return aliveI think it would be fair to say from that comment that the Father does not believe he is alive. The family had moved into the neighborhood within the previous 2 months and they didn't know many people in the area. Melissas brain doesnt want to focus on where Karlie went after she [left]. dont show enough signs of concern about Williams well-being in the police interview (in the 60 minutes interview a little more). william tyrrell disappeared from Kendall NSW Friday 12th September 2014.William and his sister were in the care of foster parents, whose identities are legal. If it was a cover up the most important reason may have been that the foster parents didn't want to lose their other foster child as well (see also my comment of April 13 at 2:13 AM). But also it could represent that other things were done. Lets see what statements we can find bike related.Adrian. The episode (in 3 parts) can be found here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTh6DM5FEAYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H5fhsGSVOMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxxLQ_K5ljYIn the first episode, the foster mother mentions at least twice a tree she was trying to let William climb in. William was three years old when he vanished and the foster parents were renovating their Sydney house with a bedroom designated for the boy in their 'forever home'. She may be withholding something more incriminating, including known associations. If that is the case, why would she hold those back? The second reason she gives for abduction is it happens which I dont think we can class as reason, a lot of things happen right? There are no well shafts in that forest here in Australia. He was deceptive due to substance abuse, passed out on the couch, while the child was able to let herself out of the house. She changes the pronoun which suggests that whatever she was going to say William would do isnt something he should be doing on his own. (modern). Autumn your right the transcript of that interview (which I hadnt seen) is not accurate at all. William Tyrrell was last seen playing at his foster grandmothers home in northern New South Wales in September 2014, when he was three years old. We've walked up and down Benaroon Drive and we can't find him.Its hard to make head or tail of the beginning (I dont know accuracy of transcript). The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, said her son was desperately trying to get a medical script for prescription drugs. "Some of the people behind these deeply personal attacks have sat in the gallery of this very courtroom," the foster mother said. So every time we go somewhere I have my camera and I just take pictures of what theyre doing, and I thought, ehm, you know, Mums getting old, be really good for William and William and his sister to have, ehm, memories of being at Mums. I think you are right we need to take a good look at everything again and see what else there is that connects to William being run over by his father. https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/william-tyrrells-inquest-starts-in-sydney/news-story/18267d344c2cf0398eb9a3d69832f230https://www.9news.com.au/national/william-tyrrell-investigation-burnt-out-car-might-be-clue/100eb4d8-1367-424d-acec-089163288300https://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/burntout-car-linked-to-william-tyrrell-mystery/3519846/Autumn. It`s just hard. But only if she has something to hide.Adrian. She places herself at the scene talking with Nanna. Their parents do. Also, what does out there mean? And he was playing on the, the grass and then what he did was, he went, ehm, just around to the right. And, I want you guys all to know. If I gave the same answer as before an experienced detective may feel I was withholding information by my use of the word just. The operator is asking too many leading questions and compound questions. walked up and down Benaroon Drive and we cant find him. Then, only in response to a direct question, does she finally state her sons name. And, theyre amazing, and, um, several Mono County Sheriffs and, I see all your faces popping up and it makes me want to cry, I love you guys! The foster mother has a need to ingratiate herself with the operator, but only gives out information piece by piece, in response to questions. Another thing I wondered is: was the foster mother about to say the name of her daughter? OT-Karlie GuseAdrian, Thank you for looking up and watching that video. Was he ever even there? William Tyrrell's former foster mother knows where he is, NSW detective Why? Also, William "couldn't sleep" without a female doll the parents show the interviewer.continued. *In the court document outlining Judge Brereton's ruling, the child was referred to under the pseudonym Julian. Karlie-Lack of proper social introduction. What I also realized is: its actually very weird that the faces of the foster parents are blurred in every interview video and that we dont know their names. She closes with Im bein real which is like throwing the kitchen sink at the job of convincing everyone. hear. This is the reason he was roaring around the garden. William bonded with his foster father almost immediately, was slower to take to his foster mother but not long before he vanished had started calling her 'Mum'. Why the need to specify for a toddler boy that his hair is SHORT?This is unnecessary information and it must imply that the hair is either shaved off or long. He was just, its just..Weve got pictures of William riding [this] bike, and there is just [unbridled] joy, just over his face, he was just free, and [he], [we] would have, and he was really good. After watching the clip and seeing how his wife took control of the situation when the sensitive point came up it reinforces everything we already know.I feel sorry for the interviewer who was in tears on multiple occasions regarding the story. He'd told a chemist 'I need them (pills) because I lost my son seven years ago', and reportedly began to cry. Over the seven years since his disappearance, some 600 people have been considered persons of interest. We have been working off a transcript which has been tidied up to make it more reader friendly. However, I have a strong feeling (unfortunately not based on principles, merely on her words and intonation) that she knows what happened to William. "and she's just there, she was just hanging out. She did not get the number plates, because the cars were not significant to her at that time she said tearily. Mothers are the last to give up hope. I brought her home. What is interesting is that Melissa introduces the word murderer. She gives the reason for her statement and we see it is [because] obviously the trolls are roaming. OT (con't) I had to go to the bathroom, brush my teeth, wash my face, she was by my side the whole time. The words "I see/hear nothing" to me imply either (1) it is pitch black and there is no sound; (2) expected properties of an object are absent (e.g. Did the foster father drive backwards down the driveway because he had a conference call (this call was the reason they left a day earlier)? She uses the word lie rather than truth. She was just right there, just, something's wrong. We were just, I was out there talking with my mum and my other daughter soThe repeated no does show sensitivity to the question. Missing boy William Tyrrell had been "handpicked" to be shuffled off for adoption and had a doomed life even before he was abducted, a child welfare advocate claims. Mystery bag found in search for missing three-year-old William Tyrell (A loud bang is heard) Then she tells us she peeked back in but wasn't sure if she saw Maddie or if it was the bedding. The rule of the negativethere was no wind, there was no birds, there was no movement there was nothing.This is story telling. What would you think if they said I know nothing about it? Kate takes Charlotte to watch Cinderella at the Royal Opera House ahead of her 8th Strike-hit NHS hospital has to SHUT intensive care beds after nurses ignored union's last-minute plea to 'Grandpa King is adorable!' Does she mean his eyesight may not have been good enough to determine who he saw? In a way that seems rather over the top (Thank You to CHP-love you, theyre amazing). Because I just want to be back with our family. Also, why does she use present tense here? We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Add articles to your saved list and come back to them any time. Thanks again for your explanation. She tells us she did that for a bit which is an unspecified amount of time. William Tyrrell's birth mother (above) last saw her son on an access visit in August 2014 when she noticed he was 'more affectionate than usual' and cuddled her rather than racing around, William's birth father (above) last saw his son at the Chipmunks Playland at the Macquarie CVentre in North Sydney in August 2014. He gave me his phone and said search for the cars," she said. Again, as mentioned by the mother, this story is ridiculous. The danger seems to be that they can take things a little far and overplay things. Yeah screaming halt is an interesting choice of words that stands out to me too. At that point she may have seen the freckle. Hair missing?? "Imagine having your son taken away and doing everything to try and get him back, only for him to go missing.". I dont think the mother is batshit crazy. 'Up until the beginning of the year William called me Mum. 'It's bittersweet,' she told 'Where's William Tyrrell'. He is not praying for his safe return but for a miracle, the miracle would be for him to return alive. All we seem to get from the parents is confusion. She wanted to color. Ever! -> Is this (i.e. To me it's interesting to read what other people see in a statement even if I don't see things the same way. March 2- Police fruitlessly search an area of bushland near Bonny Hills for three days after a tip-off. Melissa initially said Karlie never wore sweatpants and I believe her. ).The stepmother then goes on to say: And, Im putting this out there because, um, it's going on 10 hours that shes been missing and I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert.Others already commented on this. No matter how short a time they were gone there is still a level of neglect involved and the greater the time the greater its level and effect on the parent. Alicia, youre calling me? The natural question is did Melissa hit Karlie with her car? I dont recall the context unfortunately. William's biological parents had been seeing him every month, but as he became a long term placement that access was reduced to bimonthly. Was it an accident? "We want to thank the coroner, we think she cares.". I thought it could be five is not specific; the mother expects the operator to interpret five as five minutes, when it could be five hours, or longer - generally, people tend to avoid telling a direct lie. But she later said she and the foster father had been 'incredibly fortunate to have William come into out lives'. That was not the case at all. This early departure was a last minute decision according to the foster parents. The White Mountain Peak is situated north/east of their home town Chalfant. By the way, its strange that the foster mother says she and Nanna were out there talking. I'll take a look at the foster mother's use of "just" and see if I have an opinion about it.Autumn. Maybe one was parroting the other.Michael, I laughed out loud at your following comment (as I had thought something similar): The fact they have an earnest detective slaving his life away thinking he is solving an abduction is mindboggling.Autumn, Adrian, I hadn't thought of the three monkeys (hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil). This is not a child gone missing in the bush, this is heading down the path of abduction or something more sinister.Is he buried "down the path" in the "bush"? When William Anthony was born about 1495, in Kln, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, his father, Thomas Anthony, was 18 and his mother, Ursula Mueller, was 16. "She continued to ask where her brother was she was deeply missing her best friend and we had no answers.". Was he making noise, but something happened to stop him from making noise? As if she feels a need for justification. We know nothing about it. Get the monthly weather forecast for Cologne, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany, including daily high/low, historical averages, to help you plan ahead. "Like water, followed the path of least resistance."Underground. Once we get Caylee, everything else will figure itself out. If we look at the 911 call we see the time of Williams disappearance given at approximately 10:30.Operator: OK. And I was like yeah, sure, why not whatever, Ill lay with you and watch a movie. I thought there was Mother,grandmother, daughter and William making four. We have a social introduction which is expected. How did I try to shut someone down? She occasionally shares photos of her eldest son online and maintains a private Facebook group dedicated to bringing him home. It is a quiet neighborhood where kids don't just go missing from one moment to another. On Thursday, detectives from strike force Rosann which was established to investigate Tyrrells disappearance issued a 56-year-old woman with a court attendance notice. If Melissa hit Karlie while intoxicated-that may have caused the cover-up. He knows me, said Pence, who served as governor of Indiana when Buttigieg came out as gay during his reelection campaign for mayor.Does that sound like a threat? You commented on the later.we have no idea where he iswe know nothing about itThese statements throw up red flags. Other peoples kids that may watch 3. The would be - does she put it that way because she doesnt know Williams height? What has the 'foster grandmother' told about the situation? Then the mother says Thank you to the operator, who is performing his job. 'You don't make choices about who you love and who you don't love. OT: Karlie Guse"Were coming up on ten hours (breathless) and nows the part where Im saying I have to do something because weve had CHP fly over, weve had the, Inyo County, Inyo Mono County Sher-, um, Sheriffs flying over, er, ah. November 11: The deputy state coroner releases footage of William Tyrrell and family at Heatherbrae McDonalds, on September 11, 2014, Feb - March 2020: Gary Jubelin defends four charges of illegally recording person of interest Paul Savage in court hearing, February 21: Daily Mail Australia reveals Frank Abbott was arrested in custody for the purposes of a police interview about William's disappearance, March 2020: The coronial inquest into William's disappearance resumes but stops with two days to go due to the coronavirus outbreak, April 6, 2020: Magistrate Ross Hudson delivers his verdict in Gary Jubelin case, April 8, 2020: Jubelin is convicted of all four charges and fined $10,000. As if shes making an appointment with the doctor. William disappeared from his foster-grandmother's front yard in the sleepy town of Kendall on the NSW Mid North Coast on September 12, 2014, while on a visit with his foster-family. His height would be 2 1/2 feet were he standing above ground.What else?She hears him roaring like an animal that lives in a den beneath ground. Why not by the boys? She tells us Im not a liar rather than saying Im telling the truth. June 26 - The forensic search continues on what would have been William's seventh birthday. She had lied to me and told me that she was at the football game. So therefore both didn't get any sentence, this is normal ways for courthouses here in Europe. I was speaking for me, answering a question to me. If one was Wlliam in his spiderman outfit, what did the other two show? If she had told us she thought abduction was a possibility because Karlie hasnt been found in the desert so we need to explore other options, I would have been quite happy to buy it. television rather than watching the child, and the child is abducted, the mother may show signals of guilt that is not due to the abduction. You're right -> the foster mother changes "we" to "I" -> so there may have been another person. "We heard him roaring around the garden and then I thought, 'Oh I havent heard him, I better go check on him, and couldnt find him,' " she said. And does she know what cruelty happened?Autumn, Another facebook message by Melissa ( Moms refers to herself):Moms gut instinct is that she is passed out in the foothills or she was taken by someobevoff [sic] hwy 6 most likely going north.Autumn, OT Madeleine McCann documentary (5 parts)https://youtu.be/lhACS6ck-Dw (part 1)https://youtu.be/fRQQWmpiO3s (part 2)https://youtu.be/dXtBWNCFt7U (part 3)https://youtu.be/na4aBr5PTYY (part 4)https://youtu.be/EpaiVpHOFKg (part 5). Maybe shell show up tomorrow, or in a weekor what if she never comes home? I immediately got out of the carThats a big difference in a few lines of text, who knows what new information we might discover if we revise the transcript fully.Adrian. William Tyrrell's 10-year-old sister has made an emotional promise to find her sibling, telling an inquest into his disappearance she wants to become a detective and solve the case. At least you have an alibi! Was a gun fired that night? The woman understood to be Tyrrells foster mother will have her matter heard at Sydneys Downing Centre local court on 24 May. But today in the witness box the foster mother said she knew straight away it was far more sinister. In that case sitting on two chairs would be a good compromise (from her perspective): the mother did not tell a direct lie but at the same time didnt reveal their actual location. The coupleforged ahead with $769,000 home renovation in 2015. Go into her mind and picture what she is seeing.She is looking down at him. She made sure that question was answered before it could ever be asked. And then we were playing and I was playing, ehm, mummy monsters and hes chasing me and Im doing the whole wraah thing and, you know, Im chasing him and hes giggling his head off.Voice over: That great photo of, of William and his Spiderman suit that was taken, eh, on the deck.Foster mother: Yes, it was really weird, cause he was, he was doing wraah daddy tiger and that photo I took was, ehm, he was actually looking up at me and Ive sort of crouched down in a really weird position and taken the photo and, ehm, it was mid-roar thats why his mouth was wide open. One-piece?Disappeared during the night?Head shaved?Mother looking down at top of his head? That's why she so matter of fact and emotionally devoid. The windows of these cars are tinted and no person can be seen. If we look at he example we were discussing before we would have I just see nothing. She merely mentions that the neighbor says he saw her. From what I've watched so far, I think it may have been an accident. EXCLUSIVE Home win! Was there another reason (or several other reasons) why the foster father drove away that morning? Why would bad Mommy do that? He's wearing a Spider-man outfitum. If the cell phone was with Karlie then it could possibly be tracked by law enforcement. I want you to know that. If police have shared information with a family, it could cause someone to speak in the past tense.Factors:Time: how much time has passed? This comment has been removed by the author. I just want to be with you guys. Hello Anonymous.I read Michael's comments as I do all comments on this page. She had just made herself a cup of tea when she realised the little boy had gone quiet. Autumn, I dont know what to do to consider her a missing person.This statement implies the stepmother doesn't consider Karlie a missing person.Autumn. Isn't she supposed to speak from memory? Funny you are trying to shut me down because you don't like my opinion so who is egotistical and rude? : did her taking photos of William lead to William passing away and the family visiting his grave? It was like she was reporting the whole thing as witness, rather than a concerned mother. February 19- Homicide detectives take over the case and say it's likely William was abducted. The foster mother told the court how she was told not to call Mr Laidlaw, but to instead go through other investigators on the team. Did he have lice? "I was driving to Port Macquarie Airport to collect a family member, and had this flash of [realisation that] there were two cars," she said, adding she had forgotten about them in the panic of William's disappearance. I found it clear and respectful.Autumn. Nanna's house sits on top of a hill and the driveway is going somewhat down. Bodies are often hidden in a place familiar to the person who does the hiding and Karlies parents previously lived south of Chalfant (in a town named Bishop). NO MORE HARM TO OUR MOST VULNERABLE AT RISK CHILDREN. The foster mother described how she was looking for William saying things like "I can't hear you", "talk to me", "he's gone". The foster mother said caring for kids in need of a safe and loving home was 'just something we've always wanted to do'. Could he have fallen out of it? Nor has she indicated any concern for him. Do you know where he might have gone? The public were only a couple of years ago. But dont love our lawbreakers so Im writing to you for help to share this with your viewers. The foster parents successfully cleared all those hurdles and in 2011 were approved as carers of children on short term orders. (This goes for family and friends)Mothers of missing babies are aflame with instinct, protective capacity, and intuition. Did he take William(s body) somewhere while he was away (William was with me, William was with me)?Autumn, Do we know what "jobs" the foster father ran in town? To the operators promise to send police and broadcast his description she responds Yeah sure. Did he have tinted sunglasses on? "Please help my family, most of all me, find our precious William.". She is now trying to tell us that William went missing at exactly the same time as father was pulling up in his car. She cannot remember what happened and now, aged 10, she no longer remembers him at all. Also it was kept quiet by police etc that William and his sister were in foster care. Both uses dont add up so I see deception whichever way you look at it. Have they blamed themselves for what has happened? It was [like] when a child hurts themselves unexpectedly there's a scream," she recounted to counsel assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock SC on day-two of the inquest "It [felt] like a scream," she said of September 12, 2014, the day he vanished from his foster grandmother's rural property at Kendall, on the NSW mid-north coast. The coroner orders an urgentprobe into the final image that was taken on the day William vanished as metadata suggests the picture may have been taken 118 minutes earlier than originally thought. William was pretending to be a lion.

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