- 7. Mai 2023
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The vast majority of Harlan Countians are proud to be from Harlan. In the summer a friends Dad (The Blantons) would take us up the river in his pickup and wed spend the day floating back in rafts in the summer or wed spend all day at the city pool. And the tell me they can always tell when Im talking to a relative on the phone for the same reason. Do you think either one of these fits into your family. He was from Leslie, she from Perry. If you dont, I cant fault you for that, either. Thanks for the article. I just tried a case in Illinois. I remember when you had to take a gravel road from Pineville to Loyall when they were building the new 119. It was gray and you had to add the coloring to it. And of course, I mean that in a funny, I`m laughing kind of way. Im from graysknob, pine branch was were I lived till I was 17 then we moved to Putney. Harlan is quiet, unless you grew up near the railroad tracks like I did. Fleming County has beautiful, rolling hills, but they arent mountains. We cant include any counties on the Ohio River. Your article is awesome! An outlander is someone who used to live in Harlan. Miss the trains. So much that even some locals have a hard time understanding me. The name of the area now came to be because the truckers that hauled from the mill just refrerred to it as Holmes Mill! Janice and I were both switchboard operators and admissions clerk. Basil was a neighbor of ours when I was a kid, so I know he was (LogOut/ This was the day that I learned that when we turned the corner at Pineville, my wife changed languages and I needed an translator.. Im from a family of 12, but no inbreds here, but I do know cousins who married. I appreciate all commentspositive and negative. Crow Drums 70 (CHS). Theres nothing to do. Home; Movies; TV Shows; People. A friend of mine once drank a beer from a girls cowboy boot at the Lounge. I plan to continue reading your blog. We also suffer from stereotyping. We still miss it! I have lived in Evarts since age 7 this is my home (sals Branch) I had your mom in home Ec. Of course, it doesnt. This excludes Boyd, Greenup, Lewis, etc. My Mother, Reba Campbell, was born in Liggett. Me, my brother and sister went to church every Sundaywe werent allowed to even go to the toilet until after church. Its called age, my friend. My younger brother and I were born and raised in Dayton. The culture you describe in Harlan is very similar to Leadville-only the accents are different-except for my dadhe never lost his. Anyway, I just had to leave a note. Daughter of a preacher. Your Great Grandfather John D. and my Grandfather Brack H. were brothers and my Grandmother Geanie and your Great Grandmother Jeanette were sisters. The other side was the Lounge, a long, narrow open room with a dance floor. For roughly a century after the railroad came in, Harlan flourished or suffered according to coals cycle of boom and bust; the countys population expanded or I am simultaneously entertained and offended. Also, I find the surest way to know someone is from SEKY is after telling them where Im from they follow up with, do you know so-and-so? I love that. They might have gone to college or joined the military. I was born and raised in Sunshine. There were several Leonard families in the county in my day. I have lived here all my life and even tho at times i feel like due to work i may have to leave, i doubt i ever could. Just so ya know Boyd County is further east than Harlin!!!! 1. As usual John you nailed it!! It tends to work to my advantage. When we went to high school, we identified as being from Loyallor Hall or Wallins. BTW until barrack obama declared war on our coal mines,a fact, there were more millionaires in Harlan, Pike,Perry Counties, per capita than in our largest cities. Your ignorant, evidently you dont much about Catlettsburg in the early 1900s . I am a born and raised harlan countian. I volunteer as a cashier at a nonprofits ReStore. UMWA itself assisted in larger actions. It is my hometown by choice.I love it, I retired from Ky Dept of Trans (engineering). I left to go to school at EKU, meet my wife there, she is from Ohio. They had two fabulous sons who have college education with degrees in medical field and other fields. You werent one of us. Personal details. Most OUTSIDE THE COUNTY shopping, doctors visits, etc were in Tennessee I went from a county of about 35,000 people spread over 1,000 square miles to a campus of 20,000 + crammed into a few blocks. I was born in Pineville, Ky but grew up in Pathfork. Stalwarts, outlanders, pretenders, loathers you left one group out. LOL! Loved Justified. I loved all your rationale for your boundary lines. If you have a book related to Harlan County and it's people. Finished my last year in high school from there. Ring any bells? , well leave the porch light on. Bad and small isnt a recipe for success. Very funny (and true). My grandparents, Elve and Flaura Campbell, moved to Sunshine and eventually to Loyall. And we DID bathe just like people from up north. No matter where Ive traveled in this great country, I never fail to meet someone that is either from Harlan, or knows someone that lives there!! Very isolated. You brought back a lot of memories. My brother and I thought we had died and gone to Heaven. I grew up in Eastern Kentuckyborn and raised as we say. I was rather disappointed to read all about my competition Garys Lounge. On this criterion, Robertson County would qualify, but again, its just too far north. The wrong side of the tracks to the town school crowd of the 1960s. I guess youd call it a region or sub-region of Central Appalachia. Love the article. I have been told that he worked harder than 3 men. If I knew them personally I would surly let them know about it too. My Dad was born in Evarts andexpect for military service and collegenever lived anywhere else. I was raised in Wallins Creek and Cumberland by my Mamaw as a child. Both my Grandfathers worked in the mines their younger years and I still have a 1st cousin working the mines. We can be called ignorant, inbred, genetically inferior, toothless, shoelessyou name it. | Coal Troll's Blog, https://thetrivialtroll.com/2012/03/10/adventures-in-hitchhiking/, ALL ABOARD THE NERVE GAS TRAIN! She was a great homemaker and was full of wit, wisdom and love. Hollywood Bledsoe from the mouth of Cloverlick in HC, once wrote a song about Government Cheese. If we didnt know them, well they were at the wrong house. She would forever remain his Georgia Peach. We were not eligible for the government cheese, but my aunt was, & she would always bring us some, every month. My great grandpa ran a mill there. Theirs will be more like trips to Kings Island, etc. The folks in Brookside were surely Harlan Countians as was the chief gun thug, Basil Collins. Very proud of my heritage. Much later in life we got married and we were on vacation going south to visit her sister who lived back home. This is the first time I stumbled across you blog. That brings back fond memories. Thanks for the kind words. A rural county of 27,000, Harlan Countys average household income is about $29,000. WebShe talks about people being beaten or threatened, and houses and families being shot at. You hit the nail on the head ~ Love this! inside lacrosse schedule; bradley county 911 active incidents; dodgers home run seats menu; what happened to brittany on the jeff kuhner show. Born and raised as you said in Lynch You pretty much hit the nail on the head.. great write-up. I have to admit that I enjoy the irony of a sentence like Your ignorant., Its like the guy who commented that Im a fuckin mooron.. Took the jury about 5 minutes to find against us, lol. I have always been proud of being from Cawood in Harlan County. I am Wayne Middletons daughter. Webcharity bell guilford county schools; did choi woo shik serve in the military; is impeachment an effective check on the president; joseph moran jr son of thelma ritter. Now, sadly, its a way of life in the mountains. U take car cuz. I had him for a health class. I just found this wonderful Blog! Before Justified, many people got their image of Harlan from the award-winning documentary Harlan County USAwhich followed the Eastover coal mine strike at Brookside, Kentucky. Were hemmed in. 62 (10) 1 Playing statistics correct to the end of 1921. Heres my personal map of the area: This seemingly random boundary results in some folks calling it Southeastern Kentucky which, geographically speaking, is more accurate. I try to go back a couple times a year, for nostalgia as much as bagging those elusive, scarce birds. Then, I moved to Lexington, Kentucky and found out that I was pretty tough by Lexington standards. We were poor and I will say very poor. Fine set of words here! And Misty, April and I grew up together. She stayed there for a few months but felt things just werent the same so she moved back to Newport News where she had made some good friends. Ive often heard that anywhere you go on Earth you can find someone from Harlan county. Harlan. Im from Tennessee (save your boos for later, lol) and grew up in a very small, rural town with a lot of off the grid inhabitants. What did he end up doing after the strikes? We mispronounce light, fight, white and night. The Fuzzy Duck, the Corner and the VFW. We are made to known about his death on September 16, 2020. Congrats on a good job describing a little bit of what most folks cant imagine happened. They know whats best for Harlan, though, and wont hesitate to tell you. Edit. Bell county baby.We got the mountains here too. Theres no future. Just discovered your blog. I bet I heard them talking about you. I pass by there to go to my mothers home, it is amazing to see in Harlan Co. While my friends and fellow graduates were leaving here, I was happy to stay in a place I loved. I remember it seemed like every time my high school played Cawood there was a knife fight. The other motel in Browning Acres is Mount Aire Motel. I live in Lexington, but always tell people Im from Southeastern Kentucky, Knox Co (not to be confused with just Eastern KY or Knott Co. If you ever lived in Harlan you have been gone so long you dont know what the hell is going on. It used to be called Klondike many years ago. Thanks for the kind comments. She was one of my favorite. . https://www.facebook.com/groups/WallinsCreekers/. I was born and raised in Liggett. I went to Business College, married my daddys cousin (you had to know that was coming didnt you). My Dad taught English there for a long time (Mr. Creech). Have a cousin who lives in Evarts and cousins in middle KY. The strikers made bumper stickers supporting their cause and drove around the community in a truck with loudspeakers to explain their grievances and hopefully gain support. Once you push too far north, you get out of the mountains, and we have to exclude you. How can I contact your Uncle Clarence E. to find out if he has any information to help with my research? Parents moved to Dayton, OH in 63. Our reputation precedes us. Do you remember the Chappells Dairy slogan? I know exactly where you were driving. We always found lots of mutual interest things to gab about. John. I live here because I truly love this beautiful part of Kentucky and America. I found the search function and found the story. Elliott County. My little brother had a knife pulled on him at Cawood. Whitley County is troublesome. Harlan County, U.S.A. is not a traditional documentary in any sense of the word. We went to the movies most weekends and to every football and basketball game. My older brother and sister were both born at Lynch Hospital. My parents married in Harlan County in 1949. I dont know. I also have those wonderful memories, of making grilled cheese sandwiches in the evening, after supper when we as children, never seem to be really full. I left Ky in 1990 but go back very very often. Graduated from jach in 78. Norman was good to my dad, especially during my dads troubles with alcohol yet another commonality of that age. Ive really enjoyed reading this article. I have a heavy heavy accent. We knew who it was, because he told my mom about the encounter, but he was quietly scary, like a lot of the men from his era. Ruby did you know a family named Clark? In fact, I got up this morning with the intent or renewing my research. Id hate to have to kill you. WebBooks About Harlan County Kentucky Books I purchased and own. My great granny and grandpa lived in Harlan when they first married but moved to Leslie county. Then, they can come back and pay admission to see where they used to live. Coal mining runs in cycles. I remember Alafair. Keep writing as I do enjoy it. Tons of great memories and good friends. They dont want to sound like Harlan or look like Harlan. I have never been to a Harlan County Bears football game, but I have been told that the team enters the field to Brad Paisleys You will never leave Harlan alive song. We have accents which are obscured by our penchant for mumbling. Besides the accident of birth, we have certain commonalities: Harlan Countians can be found everywhere. It definitely has an Eastern Kentucky feel to it, but its out. Unless you lived in the town of Harlan, you dont go to the city schoolsHarlan High Elementary and Harlan High School. His name was Wiley Holmes. I have got too much time and information invested in my research to keep up with to just ignore my research. It was described as a place where people only smiled when they heard that someone had died. I was about 11-12 and I remember we played outside constantly. Are we still allowed to be in Appalachia? My best friend (not from Harlan) went to Saudi Arabia as a traveling nurse. I grew up in Browning Acres, just down the street from both the hospital and Cawood High School. You do remember he is my step-daddy?? I was born and raised in Harlan County and we moved to Alabama in 1952 when I was 12 years old. Life in the mountains is easy or hardvery little in between. They point to the many fine folks in the county who were (and still are) horrified by the goings on at Eastover. Crackin me up. We lived in Yancey when I was born, moved to Brookside, then moved to Evarts (Woods Mine Area) before moving to Walker County, AL. My people have been there for over 200 years, since before it was Harlan. Spent a lot of time at the top of the hill up Watts Creek. We laugh at them but let them have their fun. Im sorry that I didnt do more to keep in closer touch with them both as we grew older. I will list it here. He was actually the son of my aunts husband, so that technically makes him a cousin, but age-wise he was more of my dads generation so that made him an uncle. A bazillion of cousins to play with..mountains to explore..farm animals to learn about, a total difference than city life on a quiet street just across from Fort McPherson Army Base. I was looking for the turnoff to Loll. You nailed it. Thats pretty much the consensus of people I know. Awesome story. I can connect with outlanders here in Georgetown by telling them, I was there the day that McDonalds opened..great times! (LogOut/ You hit home with many of your comments being born and raised in Eastern Kentucky, Sandy Hook, Elliott County to be exact. By the way, Cumberland had the Novo Theater and the drive-in theater as well. He made shoes. It was a movie experience like no other. I guess Ive waited too many years to ask, but it would be nice if someone knew of him or my other Grandfather Bill Randolph. Go help someone else. It was tough to find two functioning seats together. He died in a house fire a few years ago. I need a shirt like that. I was born and raised in Harlan County, from Jones Creek, graduated from Evarts High. I get the isolation, and the coal mining( although Boyd , Greenup, and a lot of the others have had some minor strip mining now and then.) I called some place the other day, got an automated machine.your name, address, (Im sorryI didnt get that could you repeat that again. loved this. I know that area, well, too. Oh, well. WebBasil Collins the mine foreman might have been one of the best villians I have ever seen in movies, except for the fact that he was real. Loyallhad a school, a railroad yard, one stop light, a movie theater (at one time), the Corner Store (a genuinesoda shop), a gas station, a barber and a couple of stores. So please you out landing, loathing spectator, Keep your thoughts on the area you live in now, and the goings on there, we dont need or want you perspective of the people that actually live, work and die here. I am still Harlan County thru and thru. She used it for many recipes, everything from casseroles to sauces. We moved here from a comfortable city life to having no electricity (a new three bedroom house with one bath and hardwood floors. On future blog give Watts Creek a mention. How do we know they dont live in a ghetto. And of that i am very proud. I still call Harlan home, and as our family decreases, we return to our home to rest in Resthaven until we are all reunited in the hereafter. We were always suspicious of outsiders, especially those offering help. We could tell if you were from Ohio or Michigan or some other exotic place. I graduated in 80. And hell, I was taken at knife-point down into the creek at Hall when I was in 6th grade. The truth, of course, probably lies somewhere in the middle. Nothing like the beauty of a snow covered mountain, springtime with sprinkles of dogwoods and redbud blossoms or the beautiful fall foliage! The rest of us (that includes me) hate the image of Harlan Countians as violent, uneducated hooligans. preston and i have lived here in lexington since 1999. bu i consider loyall and that little house my adopted home. Many who knew of the hair would be shocked to know he wears it pretty much buzzed these days. She graduated from Cumberland High School. For many years now, Harlan has had a multi-screen cinema. We hung out at Denny Rays, Kens and I cant remember the drive in on the road to Loyall?? The economy continues to contract and isnt likely to get much better. Again I will say Harlan is a great place to be from but I would not want to live there today. Many people watch the FX series Justified. These folks are Harlan Countians, but they dont like it. Among this crowd are those that my father called off the grid. He said we had a sub-culture of people so far off the creek that they werent plugged in to the modern world. Anyway, thanks again. Harlan County, U.S.A. (1976) captures the story of strike conducted by the United Mine Workers of America Local Union in Harlan County, Kentucky. WebLearn about Basil Collins: his birthday, age, zodiac sign, his family, and more. I got cussed up and down over it! Enjoyed the article. Brought back some memories. These are small town people just like in every small town. WebGames (Goals) 19101912, 19141915, 19171921. I was in her class the day JFK was shot in Dallas. I have all the respect in the world for the good people in Harlan county its rough with mines getting shut down and people loosing what they know best and thats coal Im sorry it rough that is a reason I moved but keep strong everyone in Harlan has a big heart and I promise they are some the best people u ever meet in ur life. Basil Collins; Did you know. Andas for the grid: Morehead is east of Middlesboro. I wanted more for my kids and wife. Bad-ass wasnt the first word to come to mind, but I sure didnt want to mess with those folk! One of the only times I used my dads reputation, telling the guy to go ahead but it was going to be his last night on Earth, because if I didnt kill him, my dad would. My Mom taught at SE Community College. Nimrod Workman. Others leave to find better opportunities. .I didnt think to ask them while they were alive. I knew a bunch of Napiers (Napper). Ive been gone for 20+ years now. Jenny, I worked in Harlan Co. in the 90s on the railroad and worked with a Saylor but cant remember his first name. I feel like they are missing something that we experienced, but so is life. Have you checked out Welcome To Watts Creek site? I went to Cumberland College, Austin Peay Univ for my first masters, Trevecca University for my doctorate, second masters, and administrative certification. They were both sweet, kind, honest, decent people. I knew Lisa vaguely. My ancestors settled Smith, hence its name, and Im proud of it being off the grid. =). We have corresponded back and forth for several years about our Leonard connections. I was born and raised in Leslie County. Havent lived there since the late 70s, but Harlan is always home. However, it is likely that the presence of the camera kept the level of murder down during the strike. Oh, you might go to Garys Lounge and Roller Rink sometimes. I loved growing up there and go back frequently. John, enjoyed your comments. LOL LOL..enjoyed the article, One way to prove that someone is from the mountains is if they know someone named Lonzo! Overall, we like the stereotypical portrayal of Harlan. When I started reading this blog I thought well this is alright, but as I continued I came to realize that you dont know what the hell your talking about. Even though life was very hard at times, it was filled with family and friends and its been fun thinking about them this morning. My Mom taught at Evarts from 1951 to 1980. Oh, people still get shot occasionally but at much lower rate than wed like you to believe. For instance, threats didnt faze me. No worries. There are gun thugs in Harlan County, U.S.A., in particular a mean, squinty-eyed, jackal named Basil Collins, his pistol sticking out of his Dickies like a goofy cap It has been both fascinating and sad as well to learn so much about the history, struggles, strength and resilience of the Harlan countians. What Mountains besides the one on the border with Virginia, Black Mt.(?)? Collins spent more than three years as a prisoner of war in Japan. They might even live in Harlan, but it doesnt suit them. Entertained by the tendency to call you a mooron and ignorant while not fully grasping the importance of grammar and spelling. A man that loved Thank you. If its easy, theres nothing better. I am also thankful for the brief time that I knew my grandmother on Turner Hill who taught me how to grow strawberries, to make jelly, string shuck beans, quilt, crochet. Wayne brought u shea and ur mom n I think he took pictures. Singing man in the beginning. I grew up in Sunshine, graduated from Harlan High School in 1972 and after going to Southeast and U.K., headed to California. Thanks. I have resided in Knoxville, TN for 26 years but Eastern Kentucky will always be home because that is where my extended family and my husbands extended family continue to reside. You talked funny. Hi aurea, Ive helped ur grand paw make many many gallons of moonshine just over the hill from ur mom n dads house. They find it hard to believe we had no fast food restaurants. its more home to me than anywhere ever will be. My name is Julie Crowder-Ward. I was born in Harlan and I remember living there, but I didnt have the experience that my parents had (who were both born in Harlan County) since I didnt grow up there. My dad was one of them, outside Tommy Lees barbershop. I enjoyed your blog ..I too left Harlan to find work ..I recently got turned down for a job doing private duty nurses aide for a new client because I was from Harlan ..The job interview started out very well until she ask where I was from I had an accent 24 years later I still have that accent I think she was worried I was packing a gun..to funny ..love my Harlan county roots ..from Wallins.. ..Oh yeah agree with everyone loved that Gov, cheese. I also have no desire to change this wonderful region.am I forgiven? My parents (James Depew & Thelma Randolph) grew up in Harlan in the late 20s-30s My Grandfather was Bill Randolph, one time police chief, Constable and apparently gun thug for the man. I knew some fine people from Smith.
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